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Furthur Live at Fox Theater on 2009-09-19

by Furthur

Topics Audience, nakguy


Set 1:
Jam >
Bertha >
Good Lovin’
Estimated Prophet >
Friend Of The Devil
Feel Like A Stranger
Brown-Eyed Women
Hell In A Bucket


Set 2:
Jam >
Shakedown Street >
New Speedway Boogie
China Cat Sunflower >
I Know You Rider
Playing In The Band >
Eyes Of The World >
Unbroken Chain
Help On The Way >
Slipknot! >
Franklin’s Tower

Encore:
Donor Rap
One More Saturday Night


Collection Furthur
Band/Artist Furthur
Venue Fox Theater
Location Oakland, CA

Source Milab VM-44 Link -> Lunatec V2 -> Korg MR-1000 (1bit/2.8MHz DSD)
Lineage Korg MR-1000 -> AudioGate (16/44) -> CD Wave -> FLAC
Taped by nakguy
Transferred by nakguy

Reviews

Reviewer: Goodonya - - January 8, 2010
Subject: I'm Sold
It took a while, a long while to come to this, but I'm totally and completely sold on this new band. I was a HUGE sceptic (and still refer to the new guy as "Fake Jerry") but all I had to do is check my attitude at the door, and listen to the band. Firstly, I'm ecstatic that these old songs are being brought back to life, and secondly, they sound fucking great. The setlists are dream shows for those of us going to hundreds of shows in the 80s ... how can you complain about these setlists and the power of this band? I was at this show and I was blown away. I haven't been this excited about anything these guys have done since Jerry passed.
Reviewer: leafsurf - - December 19, 2009
Subject: best move yet
adding John Kadlecik is the best thing yet, besides maybe having kimock as your lead, i can't believe it,the band sounds so gooood, this is monumental for the boys and the fans, i haven't been this excited about the dead since jerry passed, further we must go!!!!!!!!!!
Reviewer: ggloyd - - November 22, 2009
Subject: It's about the Music
Disecters begone! This is music. This is great fucking music! These guys know what they're doing so well and that's why it sounds so good. If JK can play so well that we hear Jerry's tone and style then he's got something we love, right? I want Jerry back. But alas. And to hear this guy rip across the board with that tone and style and snaking around ala Jerry, well...it's beautiful and makes me so damn stoked to hear it! You say he's got no original bone in his body. Really? Do you really think that or are you just enjoying cursing the darkness instead of lighting a candle? Put aside everything. Put aside these people playing the music. Listen to the music. The music. Not the people playing the music. Not their names and their personal histories and sins and opinions. Listen to the music that is melting into your ears. Only. Now what?
Reviewer: ChinaCat73 - - November 18, 2009
Subject: Dead incarnations
few things for those listeners that have neglected listening to post-Jerry Dead incarnations:
The beauty of the Grateful Dead over their history is that they played for 30+ years, and never played one show or even song exactly the same. The band evolved, going through different incarnations (ie keyboard players) and experiences. A show from '84 is a world away from a show in '68. Which is better? Thats mostly a matter of opinion/preference but a great joy of listening to the dead is to be able to hear the band at such different and interesting points in their journey.

While obviously true, the band will never be the same as it was without Jerry. Fine. Accept that and get over it. There are still some kick ass muscisians out there playing some incredible shows. I'm thankful that I still get to see Bobby out there jumping around the stage and Phil jamming along. Each incarnation of the Dead has brought a different angle on dead music. I think its incredible that we get to see such talented people playing such amazing music. the Grateful Dead will never be again, but the spirit and music of the band will live on, and we should be thankful we can still experience it live, in any form we can.
Reviewer: C.Shepard - - October 29, 2009
Subject: It Is what it is
Geeze what all the negative crap about. here's the music, for free, give it a listen if ya like it enjoy, if not well there are other shows, old and new. WE are not judges, we are not managers of the musicians. Fact is each and every musician here is extremely talented and skilled at playing what we have loved for so long. But for you crapheads who think you know what these guys should do with their musical careers... John K is amazing and I wont make comparisons with Jerry. I've been listening to the music since 1968- how 'bout you. So if you dont like what you hear, just go away (please) and leave no trash behind.
Reviewer: drpinky - - October 21, 2009
Subject: Responses
To Vtangler200
Dr. Pinky opining again. Of course it is important to get new songs. Otherwise every concert would be restricted to Morning Dew, Viola Lee Blues, Cream Puff War and the Golden Road (which I wouldn't mind hearing again). But what I meant was that the most important thing was the quality and innovation of the playing. Not whether the songs were new.

To Peace_Love??
On one hand you admit that the band sounds pretty good. Yet you dismiss John Kadlecik as an inauthentic copy, as if he were some cheap Elvis impersonator.

But copies are always hollow. Yet, John’s playing has soul, spark, and innovation. There’s no doubt he is an accomplished Garcia stylist. But he uses this style as vehicle for improvisation.

Of course he’s not Jerry. No one is, and no one ever will be. But just listen to an interview with JGB’s Melvin Seals, who plays with John in a group called “The Mix”: “A lot of guys have a note or two or some signatures, but John has done his homework. He spent some time listening to Jerry and learning some finer things that other people don’t get. And yes, when I hear John play I hear Jerry all over again. It doesn’t bother me because I like that sound. I liked playing with Jerry. It’s not the same thing--I recognize that. But it’s mighty nice.”

And as far as your desire for something NEW, most Deadheads I know didn’t go to concerts to hear new songs. They went to hear new and exciting versions of old songs, drawn from the vast Dead repertoire. Using this criteria, Furthur delivers.
Reviewer: jamiejoon - - October 17, 2009
Subject: FUN! and some major highlights
Hurray for Furthur at the Fox! This is the lineup.

The combos at this show were the highlights for me - Bertha-Good Lovin, China-Rider, Help-Slip-Franklins - as was the raging Saturday Night to top it off. This second set seemed more uneven to me than Nights 1 and 3, but still was ON for all of us lucky enough to be there.

Everyone at these shows knew that the Boys are BACK!!!

I have a suggestion for the sad people who think that this is somehow a cheap imitation: please stay away from the shows - there will be more tickets for the folks into participating in magic NOW. You one star people act like you're the only ones who appreciate the Good Old Grateful Dead. After 25+ years, I think I get it, and Furthur is tapping into the well. And I'm happy about it!
Reviewer: weir1965 - - October 17, 2009
Subject: If you get confused - listen to the music play and wherever we go the people all complain
I think alot of deadheads are confused with what the band is doing here. My advice : STOP LOOKING INTO SHIT SO DEEP.
The JGB in the mid to late 70s had several incarnations and the object was not to recreate the last sound. True they had Jerry and he was the draw and I understand that.
Well this is the same thing. Jerry ( God rest his soul ) is gone so now Bobby and Phil are the draw with this Band. The Deads 2009 draw was the 4 original members.
I saw over 200 dead shows and probably 100 shows
with The Dead - Ratdog - Phil - Further Fest - The Other Ones etc.. Never was I looking for a recreation. I love these songs that Ive listened to for 30 years and also dig new stuff too. It's the scene - the escape - the feeling, at least for me.
This Futher band is good stuff - enjoy it while we still have.
Reviewer: Newdea1 - - October 17, 2009
Subject: A little disconcerting . . .
Oh, I appreciate the fun and good times it must have been at this show. Heck, if you close your eyes you can relive your past and make believe you're "back in the day". But, I have to say, is that the meaning of what it was we were believin' back then. How come we're not doing an all out search for the purrrfeccct Pig Pen? Some scarred up younger fellow that lives the blues, that drinks himself silly and sounds just like the original . . . sorry, but this show demonstrates to me that "we had something once and we're going to replicate it come he11 or high water!" Kinda misses the mark. It's really kinda sad.

I appreciated Phil's earlier attempts, with Jimmy and Warren, Ryan, and finally Jackie . . . he11 at least they mixed it up and were not trying to sound just purrrfeccct. I just drank the purrfeccct cup of coffee out of a styrofoam cup!

If this is the direction the boyz are going, well o.k., I think I'm going to hang on to my Pigpen, Donna, and Keith, and Brent era tapes/cd's and play those. At least those tunes were genuine. We truly are in a recession/depression. Hurts my heart . . .
Reviewer: vtangler2001 - - October 16, 2009
Subject: Quick Point
drpinky opined:

"And as far as your desire for something NEW, most Deadheads I know didn’t go to concerts to hear new songs. They went to hear new and exciting versions of old songs, drawn from the vast Dead repertoire."

I can't say as I agree with this at all. Back when releases like Blues for Allah, Terrapin Station and Shakedown Street were all new or maybe only a year or two old, folks dug hearing the newer material a lot. I went to a plenty of shows in '77-'79 and hearing those early Scarlet>Fires and Estimated>Eyes (not to mention a good Terrapin, I Need A Miracle or Crazy Fingers) was always a treat...even back then. I would love it if the guys do decide to break out more new tunes when they play out later this year and next year.

As for this latest band - I enjoy it and I'm looking forward to hearing them play in December.
Reviewer: PHILLYW - - October 9, 2009
Subject: Have Fun
While everyone is entitled to criticisms, my formula continues to be if it makes me smile and dance (although my kids do not think it should be called dance) and sends an occasional chill down my spine, it's ok. Must there be any other standards?
Reviewer: BataviaSparky - - October 9, 2009
Subject: Why the same stuff over and over?
I agree with Peace, Love, etc. and will expound on that to say How cool would it be if this group went into the studio and made an album of new material then went out and toured to support it? Sure, you could sprinkle in the oldies, but that would be infinitely more interesting to me than the same old tired song lists by the aforementioned "Dead Lite".

I suppose the show is good standing alone, but against the body of true Grateful Dead material available, I struggle to give it two stars.
Reviewer: peace_love_etc. - - October 8, 2009
Subject: why?
For starters I have listened to some of these shows, and yes they do sound pretty good. Clearly Phil and Bobby picked a bunch of great musicians to do this with, but the fact that they picked John Kadlecik for the lead guitar slot sours the whole thing for me.

Jerry Garcia was a huge musical force in the band to be sure, but is the solution to him not being alive to play to pick out the guitarist who plays his parts in Dark Star Orchestra? In my opinion the way to keep the spirit of the Dead going is to MOVE FORWARD and create new music, not play with a guy that's function in his own band is to impersonate Jerry.

Phil and Bobby need to sit down, write some new music (yes I know that Phil busted out a new song during this run, that's exactly what I'm talking about), and try to take their music in a new direction; or at least one that doesn't dwell incessantly on replacing Jerry with someone to play exactly like him.

As good as some of this sounds, they need to move on. Its been 14-odd years since Jerry died; and I'm not saying that we should never listen to vintage Dead, or that no one should ever play a Jerry song again...I'd just like to see something new happen.
Reviewer: Keirweir2000 - - October 8, 2009
Subject: Goodtimes
I think it's funny to see people pissed off that this band. Get over yourselves and you move on. I am pretty sure Phil and Bob can do whatever they want. I found this band to be more enjoyable than any other dead music I have heard in 15 years.

I still can't get over people are mad.. hahah
Reviewer: Salmon Will - - October 8, 2009
Subject: Wow!
Is that Lester Bangs who wrote the previous review,or Ben Fong Torres? Quite a vocabulary you've got workin there buddy.
Reviewer: verylazylightning - - October 7, 2009
Subject: Very Listenable, but still "Toy Dead"
I've really given this post-Jerry stuff a respectful listen, and ultimately come to
the conclusion that, while the musicianship
is more than acceptable, they are doing a disservice to the original Dead by slavishly
imitating a unique musical idiom and failing
in the attempt. Mentally suspend associations
with the original band, and this stuff comes
out as entirely approachable but hardly epic.
But, connect it with its immortal antecedent
forms, and the whole enterprise grates on the
ear as "Dead Lite", and grows artificial,
irrelevant and ultimately disrespectful and
rather sad. While we all knew the lack of Garcia
would have a gravely damaging effect on the band's
further efforts, it's astonishing to reflect how
deeply his lack of presence reams the core right
of out the principles that defined the Dead
experience.

My recommendation? Continue as a musical
entity, play no Dead cover tunes and dispense
with the pretensions. Now, you've got a nice,
innovative ensemble with plenty of talent and
no baggage. Take it from there, and I'll be happy
to buy a ticket next time you're in town, fellas!
Reviewer: happy420 - - October 6, 2009
Subject: This was my favorite night of the 3
This is a great sounding source, and since I have only the other two nights to compare it to I give this a 5.
Reviewer: lovehaight - - October 6, 2009
Subject: CRAP
To have this guy aping Jerrys guitar is too much..it's time for Phil and Bob to hang it up if they have to resort to this...this guy doesn't have a original bone in his body...and his voice is just fucking annoying
Reviewer: Evan S. Hunt - - September 27, 2009
Subject: Was There, At It
A great show start to finish...never mind. Didn't care what anyone thot of Kadlecik playing Jerry. JK has a few things to show the master.

Regardless of our nitpicking ala sonic quality, this recording is adequately representative of that which I expressed in the opening paragraph of this review.

And if it's not "there" for you, just turn it up, my friend, turn it up. And you'll be there.

N- Joy!
Reviewer: danger3ooo - - September 26, 2009
Subject: cool!
hey thanks for the recording very cool to hear although a little fuzzy, cant wait for the SBDs for be released for free but until then thank you!
Reviewer: dead4head - - September 24, 2009
Subject: thanks
hearing that these shows were going to happen was a supprise, but seeing them up here already is the cherry on top.
although personaly i think stu allen from JGB whould have been my first choice to see play in any dead formation, JK does a very respectable immitation. i just hope that if there is another journey awaiting us, that these guys stick together for as long as it takes to get in the groove and let the good times roll again.
4 stars for sound, 3 1/2 for performance
Reviewer: sambonk2 - - September 24, 2009
Subject: WHAT CAN I SAY
This is great stuff...x factor all over the place..It will be scary to hear this band after they have played together for awhile.Great Pull!Can you imaging what Jon k is thinking up there...looking over at bob and Phil.....Russ and Lane hold down the train and Jeff is a monster.Believe the Hype..I hope they tour the East cost!
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